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Dec 26, 2012 11:00pm PST
in washington. let's start with this. president obama and his republican opponents are about to go over niagra falls in a barrel, but nobody knows for shush how bad it's going to be. will the economy smash on the rocks below? will the stock market plunge a thousand points and keep on dropping? will the world money watchers see the u.s. drowning in its own dysfunction? or will obama and the dead-end opposition it faces be saved by the public's horribly low expectations of what they can do? what will prove stronger for obama and boehner? the barrels they're riding in or >>> heading over niagra falls in a barrel. let's play "hardball." >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let's start with this. president obama and his republican opponents are about to go over niagra falls in a barrel, but nobody knows for shush how bad it's going to be. will the economy smash on the rocks below? will the stock market plunge a thousand points and keep on dropping? will the world money watchers see the u.s. drowning in its own dysfunction? or will obama and the dead-end opposition it faces be saved b
MSNBC
Dec 21, 2012 3:00am PST
. >> good morning. >> and in washington, msnbc and "time" magazine senior political analyst, mark halperin. >> listen to the song. ♪ waiting for the end of the world ♪ >> good call, kid. elvis costello. "end of the world." >> "end of the world." it's here. no. no, no. >> what's this "new york post" stuff? what's going on? >> i don't know. olympic gold medalist turned prostitute. >> are you serious? >> the thing about the "post," they are always on the pulse. >> exclusive piece or is it in "the times," too? >> here's -- i'm glad it's going on in new york. they're getting ready for the holiday season. >> they've got their eye on the ball. >> i don't know what's going on there. >> let's just throw those away. john boehner had a bad night last night. >> yeah. a picture on the front page of "the new york times" seemed to say it all. >> yeah, my goodness. >> look at his face. >> he said a prayer last night. he undertook a gambit. he decided that he was going to walk away from negotiations and try to get republicans to support a tax increase on people making $1 million or more. without any sp
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 4:00pm PST
in a barrel. let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let's start with this. president obama and his republican opponents are about to go over niagra falls in a barrel, but nobody knows for shush how bad it's going to be. will the economy smash on the rocks below? will the stock market plunge a thousand points and keep on dropping? will the world money watchers see the u.s. drowning in its own dysfunction? or will obama and the dead-end opposition it faces be saved by the public's horribly low expectations of what they can do? what will prove stronger for obama and boehner? the barrels they're riding in or the power of niagra falls itself? joining me now is politico's jonathan ryan. how about an answer on that one? what's going to protect these guys more? the low expectations people have about them getting anything done or failing to do what they set out to do. they all set the deadline. they have the -- what do you call it. the stakes are clear, the payroll taxes, income taxes, you name it. they put it all together. and if they blow it, who's going
MSNBC
Dec 7, 2012 7:00pm PST
to see trillion deficits for as far as the eye can see. listen, washington's got a spending problem, not a revenue problem. >> joining me now are richard wolffe, the executive editor of msnbc.com and an msnbc political analyst, and robert reich, former labor secretary and a professor at the university of california berkeley. he is also the author of "beyond outrage." richard, i want to go to you first here. the president talked quite a bit in the election cycle. >> quite a bit. >> he did, period, about the fever breaking amongst republicans in congress . >> yes. >> it's been quite feverish of late, which is to say a lot of back and forth, a lot of hot air blown from the house caucus. i wonder if you think that fever might be breaking with the suggestion john boehner said, even if the president gets his way on tax rates, which would seem to open the door to that possibility. >> it's a bit to latch on to that. they cannot settle on a position. very different from the last time around. and it's true. the white house has said both publicly and privately, look, we're prepared to see all
MSNBC
Dec 5, 2012 3:00am PST
." live in the nation's capital. this is exciting. and you know, i said, let's do a show from washington, d.c., because they get so much stuff done there. it's like silicon valley. and going there when steve jobs was really bringing apple to the forefront -- >> a happening place. >> it is. it's where things happen. that's why we're here, steve rattner. >> washington is the place. with us on set, economic analyst steve rattner. also political editor and white house correspondent for the huffington post, sam stein. andrea mitchell. and in new york, msnbc contributor, mike barnicle. and the co-anchor of "street signs," brian sullivan. we've got a lot to talk about, mike barnicle, but i saw a headline on the front page of "usa today," a tease that is very intriguing, and that is one of the greatest players in major league baseball trying to get his worth right now. and if i were a major league team, i would pass on josh hamilton in a new york second because the guy phoned it in when his team needed him the most. there's an attitude problem. and yet he could be such a huge payoff. are the red
MSNBC
Dec 13, 2012 7:00am PST
for the national journal and ruth marcus is a columnist for "washington post." ruth, we'll start for you. if you're a remember of congress or the president -- >> way to go. don't do that to me. >> just for a moment, ruth. go with he. >> all right. >> do you say we need to get this done? and compromise is more important when you look at the screen right now? >> if i'm a member of congress or the president, i say that. am i confident, probably not because your poll is fascinating because the voters are so much more -- so much smarter than the politicians. they're both right about the unlikelihood of compromise. and right about the need for it. but the parties on both sides are also dealing with some pressures from their base voters and the need to not look like they were the ones who were giving in first. and so, that's -- i'm a believer with this speaker about the capacity of washington to pull rabbits out of hats or presents out of stockings, but you can't feel too optimistic right now. >> if you're a member of congress, you're not going to limp to your base i guess is what you're saying there.
MSNBC
Dec 10, 2012 9:00am PST
kept mum on the details of their discussions. a new poll by politico and george washington university shows that three in five americans back raising taxes on the wealthy, which echos the results from election day and a washington post-abc news poll released recently. in the meantime, some on the right seem to have come to terms with the inevitable, including former republican senator alan simps simpson. >> if anybody out there that is "rich" doesn't think their taxes are going up, the drink is on me. >> even with reality from some in his own corner, john boehner is facing mutany. aircraft erickson tweeted out how can you fire speaker boehner. linking to a letter encouraging readers to pressure their congress members to block boehner's re-election to the speakership. boehner is also catching flack for ahs ousting idealogical conservative members from the top gop house committees. >> it's a slap in the face of all young people who are out there thinking about being republicans, want to be part of this party, and are being told, well, if you disagree with leadership, just a couple times
MSNBC
Dec 19, 2012 7:00am PST
a little closer together, both in the nation and in washington, that would be a good thing. >> i continue to have hope that we can reach an agreement. it's not a time to put americans through more stress. >> later this morning, president obama will officially announce that like vice president biden will take charge of an effort to-like at policy in the wake of the murder of 20 children and 6 women in newtown, connecticut. i want to bring in "usa today" washington bureau chief susan page and for "the chicago sun times," lynn swede. good morning. let me start with the fiscal cliff, pause because we only ha days left. harry reid declared boehner's plan doa. let me play what he said. >> every time we get down to getting something for the long-term financial security of this country, they take that football and it is a charlie brown episode, they jerk the ball away. >> so, lynn, what is the strategy with plan b? >> well, actually the white house just said this morning that obama would veto plan b, so it may be boehner needs to look for c, d, e and f going into further negotiations because the
MSNBC
Dec 19, 2012 3:00am PST
, as tragic as it is, brings us a little closer together both in the nation and in washington, that would be a good thing. >> all right. top of the hour. good morning. 6:00 on the east coast, it's wednesday, december 19th. christmas is almost here. >> very respectful dialogue. the nra had a respectful statement. i think a lot of people showing respect on this. >> feel something may be be happening. >> feel some grown-ups, maybe. there are, of course, exceptions. >> there are a few. we have mike barnicle with us. you're not an exception. beautiful piece in "the daily news" today. we'll read that in must read. thank you very much. former treasury officials. mark ratner is with us as well. he has a must read. i'm serious. >> beautiful. >> also in washington, washington anchor for "bbc world news america" katty kay. >> no pieces, sorry. >> you'll write one next time. thank you. so we've got a lot to get to this morning. >> a lot to talk about today. >> those exceptions, what are you talking about? >> just in the conversation about everything you thought there were two exceptions. >> rick perr
MSNBC
Dec 4, 2012 2:30am PST
at a conference in washington this weekend where he says a slickly produced film on her political career ran like an international endorsement four years in advance of the iowa caucus. >> okay. new jersey governor chris christie is asking for 100% reimbursement from the federal government for the costs of emergency response the state faced in the wake of hurricane sandy. christie said in a letter to fema that the economic damage in his state could top $40 billion. he also plans to couple to washington to press his case later this week. both christie and new york governor andrew cuomo are asking for full compensation for their state's efforts. the white house is also expected to ask for more money. >>> and just one month after the election, mitt romney is returning to the business world. the former republican presidential nominee rejoined the board of the u.s. hotel company marriott international. romney served on the marriott board for over a decade stepping down in 2002 before becoming governor of massachusetts and again in 2011 when he launched his second presidential bid. the romney and marrio
MSNBC
Dec 6, 2012 3:00am PST
. >> in washington, msnbc and "time" senior political analyst, mark halperin. >> we saw him on the streets of d.c. yesterday, and he was very cagey. >> the mean streets of d.c. >> yes. he was so cagey. >> he was. >> yes. yes. >> you can't ever ask those guys what they're doing, wherever they are. where you going? with who? a meeting. >> auditioning for a gang is what i'm doing. >> right. >> yes, exactly. lots of luck with that one. >> should we get to the news? >> fantastic. boy, there's some stories here, unbelievable. >> in the least. >> you talk about libya. i tell you what, you've got assad about to cross that red line. he's going to see russia leaving quick. i think you'll see even troops going in there if he starts using chemical weapons against his own people. about to cross the line. egypt, morsi in trouble. the biggest revolt since mubarak was pushed out of power. "the new york times" also has another fascinating story. john boehner gained strong backing of the house gop. they actually say that the speaker's more powerful today than he has been since he became speaker two years ago. >>
MSNBC
Dec 13, 2012 3:00am PST
well that in washington when you're talking about obligating a future congress to make cuts, that's not a deal. and that's the same hook that republicans have always gotten hung on in previous negotiations with democrats when rate increases are on the table. so republicans are saying, look, we'll go 37%. we may even talk about 39%, but we want to see real cuts that are right now, not something that you're going to obligate the congress of 2020 to do because that's not going to happen. >> but that's fine, michael, but that's not what they're saying. >> that is what they're saying. >> no, no, no. boehner wrote a letter in plain english, typed it out, no rate increases, period. not no rate increases -- >> come on. steve, like that means something? >> hold on. so he wrote that letter. the president said we're not going to move from 39%. the president -- >> no, he did not say that. >> let me finish. the president subsequently said we can meet them halfway, and boehner did not rule out a 37% number. >> no, he briefly didn't rule it out, and then he ruled it out. >> it's still on the tab
MSNBC
Dec 9, 2012 5:00am PST
later in the program interviewing dan savage. it's about dan's marriage in washington state. they are one of the couples getting married there. after voters extended marriage rights to same-sex couples by popular vote last month. we have david johnston, the author of "fine print." he's a pulitzer prize winning tax writer at new york times and now at the college of law. we have the president and ceo of the center of american progress who served in the obama and clinton administrations, policy director of hillary clinton's campaign. laura flanders, founder of grittv.com. the editor of salon.com and the woman who hired me two years ago. thanks, as always for that. >> of course. >> anyway, on friday afternoon, house speaker john boehner attempted to paint a picture of white house negotiations and how to avoid going over the fiscal curve. i have been saying fiscal slope. now on the show, i'll go with curve. >> this isn't a progress report because there's no progress to report. four days ago, we offered a serious proposal based on testimony from president clinton's former chief of
MSNBC
Dec 27, 2012 12:00pm PST
." from washington, i'm krystal ball. reid calls boehner a dictator. ah, the holiday spirit. it is alive and well here. >>> i'm steve kornacki in new york. doesn't matter where you are. we are going to slide down the slope if a deal isn't reached. some faster than others. today, what you don't hear in all of this. straight talk when it comes to your wallet. >>> i'm toure. a big day today. anti-fragile. chaos can be good. oh, we'll make them mad today. >> maybe a little too much chaos for us who's still feeling under the weather, s.e. but we have a whole hour of "the cycle" starting right now. >>> it's basketball thursday here on "the cycle" and we have a classic for you as we relate dr. nasmith to the fiscal whatever here in washington. we take you to washington for last night's cavaliers-wizards game, a classic between the boehner-led cavs at 6-23 against the harry reid wizards at 3-22. pay attention, kornacki. cleveland won. the final was 87-84. this even though cleveland's best player irving missed 9 out of 10 shots in the second half and missed 4 out of 6 free-throws with no one guar
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 12:00pm PST
to what we have now. >> reporter: yeah. >> talking about why in "the washington post" a couple of months and said never have we seen them this dysfunctional and criticize both parties and now acknowledge the core of the problem lies with the republican party. what do you think is going on with this truly do nothing congress? >> reporter: well, toure, one is tempted to be flip and say there's post offices that needing naming in the '50s and inflated the numbers and really essentially looking at the numbers the vast majority of those bills, the vast preponderance of those bills is sort of inconsequential bills. they have a special day reserved for post office namings and singing the praises of this day or that day or motherhood or apple pie and so, you know, it's sort of really hard to tell and it's fairly strong indication as if we needed that number to indication of how dysfunctional this congress is. here's somebody, a speaker in the background there saying speaker boehner arrived at the white house and listening to that together. and let me segue back to what's going to be offered here
MSNBC
Dec 11, 2012 3:00am PST
to this story. you will keep a straight face because it's important. >>> the "washington post" is reporting the u.s. army is getting rid of soldiers, dismissing them because they don't meet fitness standards. obesity is a rising concern in the armed forces, has even been cited by military officials as a national security concern. between 1998 and 2010, the number of active duty military personnel characterized as overweight or obese has more than tripled and now the leading cause of ineligibility for people who want to join the army, according to military officials. want to know what the healthiest states are? >> i want to know how to live longer. the u.s. today says sitting on the set of a show is not the way. >> sitting too much or in snow too much. unless you live in vermont, massachusetts, connecticut or utah. >> unhealthiest, alabama. >> will die. >> south korea, west virginia, arkansas, louisiana, mississippi. >> what all those states have in common. north carolina. i see no trend. h i was in the land of -- let's do the news. >> i just was, actually. >> two sides of the story. >> okay
MSNBC
Dec 27, 2012 9:00am PST
. with me today, ben stein. steve cornaki is joining us, as well. president obama returned to washington moments ago, cutting short his christmas vacation. the president has now spoken with all four congressional leaders, according to the white house communications director he. the house remains on vacation, but there are a few signs of life in the capital. gop leaders have released a new statement with an old message to the senate. the ball is in your court. the statement says the house will take action on whatever the senate can pass, but the senate first must act. well, this morning, senate majority leader reid slammed the house republicans not not even showing up. >> if we go over the cliff, and it looks like that's where we are headed, the house of representatives as we speak with four days left after today before the first of the year aren't here with the speaker having told them they will give them 48 hours inside. i can't imagine their conscious. >> well, senator reid is expected to hold a news conference about the talks this afternoon. so here is where we stand. reid wants to ge
MSNBC
Dec 17, 2012 1:00pm PST
. joining us now from washington is arizona congressman raul gra hava. good afternoon, sir. >> good afternoon. how are you? >> i'm well, sir. can i get your immediate response to what happened on friday and what the president said on friday and yesterday about addressing these matters seriously. >> numbing shock and for a parent and for a grandparent that has three grandchildren, mona and i, that one of them is in first grade, it brings all kinds of emotions to the front. these are babies, they're teachers, and the sanctity of school where life was beginning for many, many of these children as they discover themselves, it was a numbing, numbing shock, horrific. i thought the president's comments immediately after were reassuring to the nation and comforting. i thought his comments at the memorial service were that as well, but in particular i was very, very gratified for him to say this is enough. we've gone too far. we've reached a point of no return, and something needs to be done, and i sincerely hope we follow through on this commitment and i hope congress views this issue of gu
MSNBC
Dec 31, 2012 8:00am PST
're here all the members are in washington, ready to act. the issue is whether or not we can come to a consensus. the administration in my opinion continues to try to make offers that will get to an agreement. unfortunately, as was pointed out in your earlier report, even a million dollars seemed unacceptable to the republican conference just a few days ago. the president is not going to go there. we're not going to go there. the american people don't think we ought to go there. what the american people want to make sure is that working americans, middle class americans, don't get a tax hike tomorrow. that's been our objective. we have continually offered to vote on a bill if the republicans would put it on the floor to make sure nobody under $250,000, i mean nobody, 100% of americans on their first $250,000 of income, would not get a tax increase. >> speaking of which, congressman -- we're prepared obviously to work together to reach consensus. we know that there are going to be things in there that we probably won't agree with but that if it gets us to an agreement, that preclud
MSNBC
Dec 18, 2012 7:00am PST
at the raw numbers they've changed quite a bit. this is a nbc "washington post" poll. 54% favor stricter gun control laws and 59% support banning high-capacity magazines. we heard from joe manchin and joe warner, both with a-ratings with the nra. to ruth's point, chris, is there a chance that republicans could help to move them as well? >> well, i think so. i think we have seen that on the fiscal cliff issue. and the feeling here at the capitol, i've put the question to them and said, if gabby giffords, a congresswoman one of your own was almost fatally shot, and congress didn't react on gun control, what has to happen after this new event? this has changed the tenor. i was talking to a democratic leadership aide to made that point and also made the point when you have harry reid, if you remember in 2010, a tough re-election. the nra king just short of stopping him saying he was a friend of the second amendment. you have joe manchin and now mark warner. those are moderate democrats. they help bring republicans on board. maybe we would see movement. >> i want to bring in congressman yarmouth.
MSNBC
Dec 20, 2012 12:00am PST
january, proposals that i then intend to push without delay. this is not some washington commission. this is not something where folks are going to be studying the issue for six months and publishing a report that gets read and then pushed aside. >> one of the reasons the president is asking for action without delay is because he knows change can be accomplished, and it's been done before. the assault weapons ban signed by president clinton reduced crime lower than it had been in a generation. it's been 18 years since the crime bill was signed, and eight years since it was allowed to expire. perhaps 24 is why president obama is turning to the bill's architect for guidance. >> i want to single out for special recognition the chairman of the senate judiciary committee who has fought tirelessly for this bill for six long years, senator joe biden. would you stand, senator joe biden. [ applause ] >> the choice of joe biden to lead the current task force on gun violence is no coincidence. the vice president fought against the odds to get democrats and republicans on board for the 1994 cri
MSNBC
Dec 12, 2012 7:00pm PST
no in 2011 told "the washington post" today, quote, speaker boehner has a very hard job. i could not do his job. and i would not do his job. it's easy for mes athe lowest level of the house to criticize what others are trying to do but i'm not going to do it. . now, republican tea partyers, like republican congressman brown who wanted to lower the debt ceiling have been reduced to relevance speak at a press conference attended by five members of congress sponsored by an organization no one has heard of, teaparty.net. >> we can stop this insanity in washington without raising revenue. we need to raise taxpayers not taxes on anyone. i will not back down from that. >> people want to say, you guys are just trying to help your rich friends. i don't have a lot of rich friends. that is not what we're about. we're about trying to protect the principles in which this country was founded. >> i agree with the tea party. we've been taxed enough already. >> joining me now are sam stein, "huffington post" white house correspondent and political editor. and joy reid, managing editor for the grio. they had
MSNBC
Dec 7, 2012 6:00am PST
the chances that he could take desperate, drastic action. the washington editor at large for "the atlantic" and is with the new american foundation. david, let me start with you. the question on this red line, have the syrians already crossed it if they're preparing the weapons to deliver the chemical waem weapons? is that the crossing of the line? >> it would seem to be the crossing of the line if you took what the president said in august when he gave an impromptu news conference and i think it was your question that prompted him to say at that time that if they move the weapons or if they used them, it would, i think his word was changed my calculus. >> and it was moved. exactly right. they've moved him. >> they have certainly -- it's not clear they've moved them outside the storage site although that may have happened earlier in the fall, but the big concern is that they may be preparing them for use in weapons, which is to say some of these include sarin, you have two agents you have to mix together in order to make the weapon. there are some reports that suggest that may be happening
MSNBC
Dec 20, 2012 5:00pm PST
for watching. tonight washington republicans are wasting our time. republicans are supposed to vote on john boehner's infamous plan b at this hour. the house is in recess as republican leaders basically are scrambling to get all the votes. house speaker john boehner pushed for a vote on the bill even though it has no chance of surviving in the senate. it would be veet 0ed by the president if it did. boehner's plan b. it makes tax increases permanent for income above $1 million. compared to the white house plan, basically, folks, it's a joke. president obama proposed a $2.5 trillion package. $1.2 trillion would come from spending cuts. $1.3 trillion would come from tax increases. plan b only includes $1 trillion in tax revenue and the rest of course is unspecified. it also includes no deal on raising the debt ceiling. president obamas latest offer takes the debt ceiling off the table for the next two years, which i think most americans want. boehner flat out lied to the american people today when he announced tonight's vote. >> president obama and senate democrats haven't done much of anythi
MSNBC
Dec 27, 2012 2:00pm PST
now. >>> sky fall. let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews down in washington. let me start with this. i have a message for the tea party members everywhere, destroying government is not good politics. you are engaged in negative politics. you are acting against the majority rule right now. you are trying to bring down the majority government by obstruction. people will remember. whot won tax relief. people who believe in government will remember. the people who believe in national defense and social security and medicare will remember. they will know which party is trying to destroy working democracy in order to pursue its political ends. they will know who listens to the voter, who respects the voter, and who thumbs his nose at the voter and that ladies and gentlemen of the tea party right is you. we go over this cliff and you will not have to ask for whom the bell tolls, it willing tolling for you. leading off tonight josh green and chris frats of national journal. you don't have to be as clear as i, but try, gentlemen, tonight. it looks to me like one party
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 7:00pm PST
actually had a visual assist on this. "the washington post" said that obama and his allies spent far less than mitt romney, but got far more in key markets, targeting key democratic groups such as the young working voters in spring states. i think what they did, knowing why they were going, something we never saw before. the worst move of the 2012 campaign? >> i got two things on this. one is, i think my answer is choosing paul ryan to be the vice presidential nominee. just because a, it never gave him the list that anything thought it would be. he effectively neutered mitt romney, whether it was the stuff with todd aken, or the ryan budget, nowhere to run away from it. >> alex and i were on the same wavelength, picking paul ryan, not only for those reasons, but mitt romney went on to lose wisconsin badly. there were questions after paul ryan's debate performance against joe biden of whether he was really ready to step on the stage and be the number two. and i think a lot of people who thought about going with mitt romney, not only were they uncomfortable with how far to the right he was,
MSNBC
Dec 15, 2012 9:00am PST
about the shooter and what he did in the days before the attack. nbc's pete williams is in washington. pete with a good day, what have you learned? >> reporter: alex, the connecticut authorities have not yet formally identified the gunman, but we're been told and i think it's widely known it's adam lanza is his name, 20 years old who was living with his mother. they say the shooting actually began that morning about three miles from the school at the home where he was living with his mother, that he shot her then drove her car to the school. now we're told that he had actually four handguns when he entered the school. we had known about the first two. they say there were two others that were found. and then he also had a rifle that was not brought into the school we're told by several officials, that it was left in the car, and that all these weapons were legally purchased by his parents. although officials say on tuesday of this past week adam lanza went to a sporting goods store in connecticut and tried to buy a rifle but was turned down for various reasons, because of the connectic
MSNBC
Dec 27, 2012 4:00pm PST
the right thing, turn to tnt and you can watch "mr. smith goes to washington." >> is that the craziest thing, that the people would vote against boehner for speaker would vote pelosi into the speakership. >> they wouldn't have to vote for pelosi. they could vote for newt gingrich -- >> but pelosi would get the most votes. >> you need to get 218. they would need to find a nominee who had 218. i don't think boehner would ever lose, but i think it would be a big symbol, a very big kind of vote of dissatisfaction among his republicans. >> chris, you know what we don't need right now is another symbol. how about complete symbol. thank you. wait until you see the headlines the next couple days, but the grown-ups who write front pages are going to go these guys are nuts. thank you, chris, up on the hill and, josh, for enlightening us for the purposes of the viewer. >>> coming up, the man in the middle of the republican circus, john boehner. let's figure out this guy. what is his story? he's the leader of the party that doesn't want to be led by him or anybody. they don't even -- well, it's not even
MSNBC
Dec 7, 2012 12:00pm PST
. unemployment and the one on one game in washington right now. does one have anything to do with the other, jared? >> well, yes, they do, although i'm still trying to work out this movie metaphor, so give me a second. as the labor market improves and i agree with you that things were definitely better in november than we expected, given the lack of apparent damage from the storm at least according to the bureau, as things improve and the underlying economy continues to show more momentum, the job market too slowly in my view but it is improving. the costs, the opportunity costs to use an economics term of going over the fiscal cliff become that much greater. it is just a terrible idea to go start down the fiscal slope, i should say to you guys. it's a terrible idea to start down the physician clal slope when we actually have a little bit of momentum behind us. why you would want to throw a cliff or debt ceiling debate into this economy that's beginning to show some life, with policymakers like these, we don't really need enemies. so that's kind of where i'm at with it. >> peter, help me un
MSNBC
Dec 12, 2012 12:00pm PST
the government money. the chatter is being stirred by knowledgeable washington journalists saying the obama administration may be ready to include these in a fiscal cliff deal with republicans. whatever negotiations are taking place between the president and speaker john boehner, whatever each side is prepared to give up a a level of security. it's totally possible the white house actually has no intent on messing with medicare or social security benefits. but for the left the chatter is ominous. it's coming from well sourced reporters and we've been down this road before. the pursuit with john boehner in 2011, obama was willing. there's reason to suspect there's something to all this chatter. and the question then becomes why? why would obama who simply by doing nothing these next few weeks could get the tax hike on the wealthy he's been demanding without touching medicare and social security? why would he entertain such drastic changes to the safety net? most likely culprit is the dreaded debt ceiling. here's why. republicans came to these talks with no leverage. the consequences of doing
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Dec 8, 2012 5:00am PST
in washington. >> i think that's the key point. you look at the history of environmental movements in this country. the american people including in red states have proved themselves willing over and over again to tax themselves to address current risks to their health, their children's health, their communities, their water supply, the air they breathe. the problem with climate to date is it's seen as a future risk, and it's coming forward. >> the politics also change -- you made this interesting point about the geography changing. we basically know how the senators from west virginia are going to vote on stuff that has to do with coal. democrat, republican, marxist, whatever. whoever you would elect from west virginia they're going to vote a certain way on coal. and the fact that we now have this incredibly distributed development because of the fracking boom means a lot of different places now are geographically playing. that goes two ways. one way is we produce more senators from the state of west virginia and how they vote. the other is we produce this broad grassroots activac
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